Faith in Faith? or Faith in God?

This is so vital! Listen to the message of nearly every faith preacher long enough and your will hear the faith in faith rhetoric. Faith (You) calls things to order, heal, bring abundance. It is centered on you, and if things go bad, it's not God's will. Forget the premise of the book of Job. I recently read a good post that traces the history of the Word of Faith back to it's occultic origins. I am not impressed and so no Biblical support for this teaching. I often watch these guys on television and it is so sad to me because they rarely ever use Biblical texts, and I am not sure if most watching them even have their Bibles open to see when thy do use texts it is often out of context. What impresses me, and what I see in texts is people who spend themselves to reach out to people and nations. From the Apostles to the Reformers that was a glorious and a difficult thing. They were wrapped up in Christ, not in their "faith" to produce abundance, and things. The fire is when we see what's real in us. Saddly those I have seen who trust this message of "faith"are led to despair when hard times hit (which will happen if you live long enough). I see in the Bible God often uses hard things to drive those He loves to him. I look on my life and when things are going well I start to trust myself, and my abilities, yet when things are uncertain I cling more to Christ. I cannot wait for the day when God changes things and I will not be drawn to trust myself, my things, my abundance. I want baddly not to waste my life but to spend it to make the gospel known, and not to try and build my own kingdom. God help me to be faithful in abundance and want to not hoard, but to delight in You.

Struggling together,
seth